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So, you’ve recorded a kick-ass podcast.
The first few episodes are finished, and they sound even better than you hoped they would.
But though that may have seemed like a lot of work, that was just the beginning.
Now you need to make sure that people find out about your podcast; get interested in it; and of course, listen to it.
And then, you need to work out the ways to turn one-off listeners into die-hard subscribers.
One of the biggest mistakes that brands, business and individuals make when they launch a podcast, is not doing enough to promote it – and without promotion, your podcast, however great, is not going to get heard.
Here, we’ve pulled together 9 top tips for getting more listeners for your brand-spanking new podcast:
People listen to podcasts using a variety of different apps (sometimes known as podcatchers).
By far the most popular podcatcher is the Apple Podcasts app, which currently accounts for 70% of podcast listening. It doesn’t take a genius to work out that your podcast needs to be available via Apple in order to have the very best chance of being heard.
But whilst Apple may be the biggest player, don’t forget the others. From Stitcher to Spotify to Google’s new Android app, Google Podcasts; the more places your podcast is discoverable, the more likely it is to get a listen.
Let’s imagine that your dream listener / customer finds the first episode of your podcast, loves it, and immediately wants to listen to more.
But you only launched with the first one. There are no more (yet).
Believe it or not, podcasts sometimes receive negative reviews and low ratings on the Apple Podcasts app for exactly this reason; there just aren’t enough episodes available.
But it’s not all about reviews. In all honesty, your very first podcast may also be a bit of a warm up; it’s likely that by your second and third episodes you’ll have found more of a groove, be a bit more relaxed. Lots of people ‘binge-listen’ to podcasts, so if you give listeners a few episodes to get to know yours, you’ve got a better chance of getting them hooked.
We’ve already highlighted that by not having enough episodes available to stream you may attract some negative reviews; but how do you secure positive reviews? And what difference do they really make?
The fact is, positive reviews and a flurry of listeners clicking ‘subscribe’ soon after your podcast goes live can be enough to send you shooting up the rankings in some of the iTunes (Apple) podcast charts.
The ‘new and noteworthy’ spot in the Apple podcasts app is the most coveted, and you have eight weeks from when your podcast launches to get there. The first two weeks of these are especially crucial, so ask explicitly at the end of your podcast for listeners to rate, subscribe and share your content with all and sundry.
Chances are that your business or brand has a Facebook page, a Twitter account and/or a LinkedIn page. Maybe you have an email newsletter database, too.
Wherever you already have a captive audience, let them know about your new podcast. Schedule a one-off newsletter to announce it (and continue these for subsequent new episodes); create images of quotes using free apps like Canva for social media, audiograms on the rather marvellous Headliner app, or share Soundcloud links to your podcast on Twitter where they are playable in-stream. And make sure you share links to the podcast in your social posts to make it easy for people to find it and start listening. Prioritise Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts and Spotify in your links. Twitter’s thread mechanism is super helpful for this – if you run out of space, just keep pressing the + button!
Don’t be afraid to keep talking about your podcast on social media – the average lifetime of a tweet is just 24 minutes, so don’t hold back!
If you often speak to different guests on different episodes of your podcast, why not try tapping into their audience by asking them to share links on their own social media channels?
Tag them in mentions of your podcast episode and share images and soundbites that will attract their existing followers and tempt them into listening and hopefully, tuning into your other podcast episodes, too.
Be sure to create podcast notes, sometimes known as shownotes, to summarise the content of your episode. These would normally sit on your website as a blog post or news article, although they could (if they are pithy enough) be included in your podcast episode description.
Why is this important? Well, search engines don’t have ears yet, but they can see – and index – the text which you include in your notes. These descriptions will also be pulled in by third party apps via your RSS feed.
Here you can also link to websites, guests social media accounts and events that you’ve mentioned in the episode, and any other information which might be helpful for our listeners.
Depending on the budget for your podcast promotion campaign, you may want to invest in some advertising.
Social media advertising is cost-effective and can target people specifically by interest and location, meaning you’re even more likely to reach the right people with information about your exciting new podcast that they’re bound to love.
Alternatively, you could look at placing adverts in your local or trade media; or you could try giving out flyers or putting up posters at an event you’re attending where the audience is likely to be interested in the subject your podcast covers. Yep, the traditional stuff still works.
Is your podcast newsworthy? Are you covering a topic that hasn’t been touched on before? Or doing it in a new or radical way? Maybe you’re speaking with people that the media already has an interest in (e.g. sports personalities, politicians, celebrities)?
If so, you may be able to generate some media interest in your podcast. It may be worth speaking to your local or trade media contacts or speaking to a PR agency or consultant who can give you some ideas on how to get your podcast mentioned in the press. It’s often far more cost effective to get your story into the media in this way, than with paid-for adverts.
It is also worth searching for related interest groups / forums where your target audience is gathered, and letting them know about your podcast. For example, if you’re releasing a gaming podcast, find the forums, fan groups and online communities where gamers talk, and start joining their conversations. But remember, don’t spam them. Share your knowledge and build trust rather than just sell them your wares.
This may seem like an unusual tip, but lots of podcasters need a regular stream of interesting guests to appear on their shows.
If you would be happy to appear on someone else’s podcast, have a look for opportunities to talk about subjects that you can link back to your own podcast. For instance, if your podcast is about cooking and you are based in Manchester, is there a local Manchester podcast you could guest on where you could talk about your experience of the city, but also mention your own cookery podcast?
Most hosts will be fine with you getting a mention for your own podcast in return for appearing on theirs, and you’ll be reaching an audience that is already engaged in listening to podcasts, meaning they’re far more likely to be receptive to giving yours a try.
Love to start a podcast but no idea where to begin? From next month we’re running Podcast 101: one-day workshops that tell you all you need to know to get started – book your place now for an early bird discount of 25%.
Bengo Media has been commissioned by Welsh Government to create a new podcast series for Welsh teachers, ahead of a root and branch reform of the country’s education system.
By 2022, all children in Wales will be working to a new curriculum for the first time in over 30 years – with digital skills at the heart of the reforms alongside literacy and numeracy.
To help communicate these changes, the Welsh Government commissioned Bengo Media to produce a podcast aimed at Wales’ 33,000 strong teaching community.
The first episode of Addysg Cymru | Education Wales, presented by the Pearson teacher of the year 2017, Luisa Martin-Thomas, Deputy Head of Tonypandy Community College and comedian and former teacher, Mike Bubbins, is released today.
Mike and Luisa will be interviewing key figures involved in the reforms and asking the questions from the teachers’ point of view. Episode 1 gives listeners a whistlestop tour of all of the up and coming changes whilst laying the groundwork for episode 2, due for release in June, which will delve deeper into why Wales is opting to change.
Bengo Media Director and series producer, Steve Austins. “We’re delighted to be helping Welsh Government communicate such important changes through podcasts, a medium totally in keeping with the new curriculum’s focus on digital skills”.
“The last time the curriculum changed back in 1988, the internet hadn’t been invented, Radio 1 was still on medium wave and mobile phones were more hefty than smart. It shows how times have changed for both education and for audio content.”
This blog was commissioned by and first appeared on Tuesday Media.
You must have overheard it. People talking in hushed, but excited, tones about S-Town, Serial, Dirty John or the latest podcast that they’ve discovered. One in ten adults in the UK now listen to podcasts every week – spending hours catching up with their favourite audio shows from across the world. And that number is growing.
A podcast is a series of digital audio files downloadable onto your phone, tablet or laptop. To put it another way, it’s a form of radio show which needs no radio station, nor radio set to listen to it. Anyone can record them and publish them. Listeners can search for a topic they want to hear more about, download a podcast on that topic and listen to it. Wherever they want. Whenever they want. For free.
Current research tells us that podcast listeners are young, affluent and keen to learn new things. Starbucks, eBay, Microsoft & NatWest are already doing it, but podcasting is still an underdeveloped marketing tool for businesses. So, here are seven reasons why your business needs to start podcasting.
Since Guglielmo Marconi started testing the concept out at the turn of the 20th Century, radio has been written off many times. Lord Kelvin – he of the temperature scale – once said “Radio has no future”. In the 1970s, there was even a song about it. In fact, as radio futurologist, James Cridland notes, so many things have “killed the radio star” that you’d be forgiven for thinking audio would be dead and buried by now. Instead, BBC radio is approaching its centenary with nine in ten people in the UK listening to the radio every week. Meanwhile, Google and Amazon are making audio sexy again with smart speaker technology. Alexa won’t be able to read your blog or play your video but she will be able to play your podcast!
So why has audio survived? Well, it’s a simple, effective and convenient form of communication. What‘s more, done well, radio is your friend. Over the last two decades, I’ve seen first hand how important radio presenters are to people – and how personally they take it when you make changes. A presenter is in a listener’s life day in, day out. Often they spend more with them than they do with their own friends and family. Podcasting offers that same bond but with more of a commitment. After all, podcast listeners have made an active choice to press play and listen to you. They’re interested in what you’ve got to say. They trust you. We know how effective this is for advertisers. US ad agency Midroll polled over 160,000 podcast listeners in 2015 and found that 60% had bought products they’d heard about on a podcast.
6.1 million adults in the UK listen to podcasts every week. That’s one in ten people who are making an active decision to take control of what they listen to. These people tend to be in their twenties, thirties and forties. And in the US – where podcasts are much more of a part of daily life – Midroll found half the podcast audience are university educated. A fifth earn more than $100,000 a year. Podcast listeners, it seems, are young, well-educated and affluent. These are, for many businesses, dream customers.
Your podcast listener is a rarer species of human than, say, your YouTube consumer, or your Facebook user. But no one can match them for their passion or their evangelism. If you’re a podcast listener, you spend most of your listening time listening to podcasts, rather than other forms of audio. And 85% listen to most, if not all, the episodes that they download. That’s extraordinary loyalty when you compare it to the average watch time for a YouTube video. It also adds up to lots of listening time. Think about the way you consume audio at the moment. When you’re driving, for example, or when you’re out for a run, or at home while you’re doing chores. Audio is helping to entertain your conscious while your subconscious cracks on the everyday tasks that take up hours of your day.
For many, podcasts provide a welcome break from radio ads and hearing the same songs over and over again. Podcast listeners are active listeners. Research firm Edison discovered they listen to learn something new every time.
What’s more, the beauty of podcasting is that niche is king. If you create a podcast discussing different types of pens, you can and will find an audience for it. Saying that, it’s important to remember a podcast doesn’t work if you’re trying a hard sell. Instead, be generous with your knowledge in order to build an audience. You can create the desire around your product but encourage people to visit your website and convert sales there.
Many people see video and think why bother with audio. But there are a couple of ways in which podcasting has the edge. For starters, people spend more time with podcasts than with video, which gives you more time to engage potential customers. But also in a podcast world, you can become a big fish in what is still, relatively, a small pond. Although no one has definitive figures, there are around 200,000 active podcast series available today. Compare that with the 300 hours of videos uploaded on YouTube every minute and the 5 billion videos watched every day. Becoming a trusted voice in your field is far harder on YouTube than it is as a podcaster.
Every business needs great communicators. Particularly when the going gets tough, people who look and feel comfortable in front of a microphone are worth their weight in gold. With a regular podcast, your team can get used to being on microphone in a live, studio environment. They can hone how to make your company’s key messages appeal to your audience. Podcasting is a great way to get some regular practice at those key media training skills.
Up to now, podcasts have been the domain of media companies and individuals with a story to tell. But with the help of experienced audio production companies, more and more businesses are getting in on the act. There are three types of branded podcasts, as they‘re known. The first type shows off your area of expertise. So, for example, Tinder has its own dating show and Mumsnet shares baby stories with new parents. The second type is where content aligns to your company’s values. Starbucks has a podcast highlighting ordinary people making a difference in their communities. Meanwhile, eBay provides inspiration for people starting up their own business. The final type of branded podcast is perhaps the most philanthropic – where you lend your name and your money to the creativity of others. The best example of this is audio drama provider, The General Electric Theater – a throwback to the US company’s role as a TV drama sponsor in the 1950s.
This blog first was originally commissioned by Tuesday Media – a new, exciting communications agency which combines storytelling skills with digital expertise to create a full inbound marketing solution for your company. Bengo Media can help you start your podcasting journey by creating powerful audio content for your business. Get in touch to find out more.
I’ve spent some time this week catching up on all the news from last week’s Podcast Movement. PM is the big, annual US conference on all things podcasting. And while many sessions caught the eye, VP of Libsyn, Rob Walch’s session busting the marketing myths of podcasting was standing room only.
The myth that captured the most attention in Rob’s talk revolved around the ideal length of a podcast. Conventional wisdom says it should be about 22 minutes, as that’s just below the average length of a commute. Complete bunkum, says Rob. In fact, of the shows that had hit a hundred thousand downloads within 60 days, only 10% were under 30 minutes. 84% of them were 50 minutes or longer.
I worry people cling too tightly to stats like these. New podcasters may decide to go longer because they think that’s the way to get bigger downloads. What they might not think about is whether they have enough quality content to sustain 40 minutes, 50 minutes, an hour.
Ideal Length of a Podcast
So how long should a podcast actually be? The question is impossible to answer; unless your happy with the answer “It depends”. It depends on the subject matter, it depends on the target audience. Our physical and emotional circumstances dictate the length of our attention spans from one day to the next.
Your podcast should be as long as it needs to be, providing that it remains compelling. If it doesn’t, you’re likely to lose people’s attention. Harsh as it sounds, you’re likely to start wasting your time and theirs.
No one is ever ungrateful to be handed back time. No one is ever disappointed if a delivery that was due between 9 and 5 turns up at 9.05, or even 9.30. So, if you’ve got some great points to make in your podcast, make them and get the hell out of there – while your listeners still want more.
Personally, I shudder when I see a podcast stretch over an hour, because I know I don’t have an hour to give. I will make exceptions, but the chances of me listening in one sitting is very unlikely.
Of course, what feels long to me might not feel long enough to someone else. But what unites podcast listeners is the need to derive value from what their listening to. Quality counts. I may balk at an hour but I wouldn’t listen to a 20 minute podcast if I thought it wasn’t going to be an investment of my time.
The average duration of the Top 10 Podcasts in the US right now is 40 minutes. Take Up First and Planet Money out of that Top 10 – both of which are under 20 minutes – and that average shoots up to nearer 50 minutes. Most, if not all, of these podcasts have big production teams. The latest edition of This American Life credits 34 people, plus presenter Ira Glass. These are resources beyond the reach of nearly all of us. Most UK radio stations don’t have 35 people on their staff, never mind on a single programme strand.
No one begrudges This American Life this level of production. It is magnificent. Perhaps the original podcast gallactico. My point is that every word on every edition of TAL is measured. Poured over. Thought through. Nothing is wasted. No second of those 59 minutes is left to chance. This episode of Gimlet’s Start Up lifts the curtain a little on how much effort goes into producing big podcasts like these.
Would I give 50 minutes of me time to Start Up or This American Life? Absolutely I would. I do. But that’s because I trust them that each minute of that programme is worth the investment.
Can the same be said of your podcast? Are there any areas that are flabby? Is that introduction too long? Are you jokes too in? Is your audio quality good enough to listen to over a sustained period? Is your content well thought through? Do you know how you’re going to start, move on, end? Are you guiding your listener by the hand through your episode, so they know what’s coming next?
Challenge yourself. Does every minute offer value? If it doesn’t, cut it back.
Because, we’re all time poor. And your listener is trusting you with one of the most precious commodities they have; their time. If you handle that with care, then you’ll build a relationship that will see them transition from occasional listeners, to regular listeners, to fans, to advocates. If you don’t, then you have to expect the opposite.
Steve Austins is the Director of Bengo Media. Talk to us about helping you delivering great content, every time.
Earlier this week I received an email from a friend. He said he and two of his friends were setting up a new podcast. It’s the kind of news gets me punching the air with joy nowadays. It takes all sorts, I know.
Crucially the email said:
“we have absolutely no funding. What is the minimum equipment can we get away with? I was thinking of initially recording it via my iphone/ipad but need mics and possibly a simple edit software to add a jingle or two.”
Hmm. Providing there’s a little wiggle room on the “absolutely no funding” thing, challenge accepted.
We all hear that setting up your own podcast need not be expensive. But just how cheap can you set up a three person podcast for? Well, let’s start with the basics. For something like this, you need the following:
Plus, if you want a jingle or two, you need to budget for that too. So, let’s break it down.
Let’s face it, your new podcast is going to be amazing: a ratings winner. So, unless you’re sitting on significant bandwidth at home,you’ll need a podcast hosting site to deal with all the download requests your podcast will get.
A hosting site both manages your media files and generates you an RSS feed, which you need for iTunes and other podcast directories.
However, you can cut out the ongoing costs and find a provider that does hosting for free. Do tread carefully though. For example, do your homework on SoundCloud, which seems to be under a consistent financial cloud at the moment. Check out Podigee, Buzzsprout and Spreaker for its limited free option. For me, Podiant seems to have the best free plan, offering unlimited storage and bandwidth, an embedded podcast player and analytics – all for zip. People talk highly of Podiant within podcast circles, so they are well worth checking out.
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Let’s be honest, you could spend nothing at all on microphones. You could pick up your iPhone and speak into the in-built mic and interview your friends in the same way. If you did, at best you’d get arm-ache. At worst, it would sound terrible and no one would listen.
If you are going to do that, at least invest in a mic windscreen and put it over the in-built mic to get rid of pops and interference. In fact, having a windscreen in your bag is a good idea for recording quick out and about interviews for your show.
Investing in some microphones is pretty much a must. And, a decent start-up solution need not cost the earth. Lapel or lavalier (lav) mics are a good starting point and work well with smartphones. But they are condenser microphones, so find a quiet room to record in as they will pick up background noise.
You can pick a lavalier mic for under a fiver. – meaning you could mic up a double headed podcast for less than £10. But adding that third person into the mix – as my friend wants to – makes things a little more complicated and pricey. In this case, it might be worth looking at the Movo range. The Movo PM 20 has two mics on the one lead, with the PM10 a more straightforward one headed lav. I use PM10s and they create a good sound for a reasonable price.
Three lav mics would set you back £40. But if you consider the best cheap directional podcast microphone is about £60, you can see what a good deal this is.
To get those lavs mics plugged into a smartphone, you’re going to need an adapter. The Rode SC6 is very good because it allows you to plug in two mic leads and a set of headphones at the same time.
Running Total £52.51
So now that you’ve got a decent and low cost mic set-up, next its finding some recording and editing software. And here’s the mind blowing thing – you can do this bit for free.
If you’re an Apple user, check out iTalk Recorder, which allows you to record up to a 44.10kHz sample rate. It’s a simple and effective app to use. And I’m not sure you need the £1.99 upgrade offered as an in-app purchase.
If you want a step up, then the Ferrite app is pretty unbeatable. It’s a free multitrack recorder and editor, while maintaining a simple user interface. There are a selection of upgrades available all the way up to £19.99 but you can record up to one hour at a time on the free app, which may be all you need.
On Android, you can try Easy Voice Recorder or Audio Recorder. But whatever smartphone you use, please bear in mind that apps can be buggy at times. For peace of mind, you may eventually want to upgrade to a digital audio recorder. Zoom have a great range, from the basic H1 to a H4n or H6 for more complicated set-ups..
Once you’ve recorded, then it’s time to edit. And if you’ve got a desktop or laptop computer, then take a look at Audacity. It’s a free open source editing suite which is the choice of many podcasters. If you have a Mac or a MacBook, then the in-built Garageband, will also do the job well for no money. There are tonnes of how-to videos for both pieces of software on YouTube.
Running Total £52.51
Getting the audio spot on is important but your visuals are important too. To get your podcast registered on iTunes and other directories, you need artwork. Podcast art needs to be a 1400 x 1400 pixel image and has stand out to grab attention. If you’re a dab hand at Photoshop, you could do it yourself. Or there are lots of podcast artwork designers on Fiverr.
Running Total £56.41
You don’t need a jingle or a theme tune but a good theme tune can help your podcast be memorable for listeners. However, copyright law prevents you from just picking your favourite song and putting it at the top of your show. Instead, you’ll need to use royalty free music, which is clear for you to use once you’ve paid a small fee. There are lots of these sites – including two I’ve used in the past, Audio Jungle and Audio Network. The latter allows you to download a WAV of your chosen piece of music for £6.99 plus VAT. They do offer 10 MP3 downloads for free to get you started too.
And with that, you’re all set. Yes, you need to register your podcasts on iTunes/Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, TuneIn amongst others, but that’s not going to cost you any money. So, at current prices, anyone looking to do a three person podcast can do it for a total cost of £64.80. Not bad eh? Certainly on a par with three friends going out for a meal.
Caveats? Well, smartphones and apps make me twitchy, so a decent digital audio recorder is a good investment. Secondly, putting a few quid into the coffers of a start-up like Podiant will make you feel warm and fuzzy inside (and help them stay in business in the long term). Finally, good directional microphones will give you a much better sound than lavs.
But all in all, this is a good set up to get going. Which means now all you have to worry about is getting the content right. Putting a price on that? Well, that’s a whole other story.
Steve Austins is the Founder and Director of Bengo Media. Check out how we can help get your podcast off the ground and make your content stand out.
Blurrt Out The Vote – the podcast which analyses what social media is doing during the 2017 General Election – returns for episode 2. You can listen using the player at the bottom of this page.
Recorded live at Tramshed Tech in Cardiff, Tom Price is joined by CEO of social media insights platform, Blurrt, Jason Smith and Valerie Livingston, Director of political consultants News Direct Wales, to talk about a week of policy pledges, cyber attacks and, er, fish fingers.
On the agenda, Twitter’s love fest with the policies in Labour’s heavily leaked manifesto – and what that has done for the party and Jeremy Corbyn.
Also, when Theresa May did a Facebook Live Q&A with Robert Peston, angry emoticons flowed across the screen. Blurrt’s analysis found that this was replicated on Twitter, although there was some love and happiness too.
Social media brought little good news for either UKIP leader Paul Nuttall after he appeared to walk on the spot in a party election broadcast, nor Lib Dem leader Tim Farron, who will have to fight off a fish finger to keep his seat in Cumbria.
Blurrt Out The Vote is published every week during the election campaign on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, TuneIn, and the other main podcast platforms. You can also listen on this page in the link below and find out about the series here. Blurrt’s election hub is available on their website, blurrt.co.uk and you can find out more about the company’s political work here.
To find out how Bengo Media could help create a podcast for your business, email us at email@example.com
Engaged couples can get the help & expertise of Wedding Planner Zoe to guide them through their preparations with the launch of her new podcast series.
Wedding Planner Zoe Binning from Weddings by Zoe has been super busy over the last couple of weeks prepping and presenting her new podcast series ‘Icing on the Cake’.
Her first 3 bite sized episodes were released in time for Valentine’s Day. They are part of an 11 episode series that will guide newly engaged couples in the UK through all their preparations, from setting and following a budget to finding the perfect venue, dress and suppliers.
New episodes will be released weekly on iTunes.